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I went to RRCC for three...
Back to page topI went to RRCC for three years, two of those years were spent doing the pseo program that is offered for students who are still in high school. I loved my experiences at RRCC and I honestly believe that having the opportunity to attend classes there instead of high school prepared me more for college than high school ever could, no matter how many AP courses that were offered. It did wonders for my self responsibility as well as teaching me to actually care what I did in school.
That being said, i have to be brutally honest and say that even though i had many positive experiences at RRCC i also have my fair share of negative ones--particularly with several of the football recruits. I understand that the football program does its fair share of holding our small college together, but at what cost? As most people know many of the football recruits we aquire come from the southern United States, particularly from the African American Community. Our small town is indeed lacking diversity and this brings an opportunity to our town so that we might be able to break out of our small box of isolation and get to know people of other cultures, because lets face it, small town mindsets and mentalities are like night and day to big city ones. That being said i feel that this also creates situations of misunderstandings as well as stereotypical attitudes. I find that the reasons the recruits we bring here have such a hard time settling in is because it is ultimately a culture shock. Its like expecting a fish to live out of water.
When i attended the college i spoke to many guys on the football team as to how they felt about transplanting themselves from their home all the way to little old Ifalls. Many were under false impressions of what RRCC was really like, as well as what IFalls was like. Some even felt they were lied to. I have no idea if this was the case, but some of the guys did feel they were misled. I also feel that the recruitment tactics is one, if not thee biggest sproblem our football program faces. For being IFalls' only college it appeared strange to me that there was only 2 players on a team of about 50 that were even remotely close to our area. I think that by recruiting guys in our area we could form a more cohesive team that could actually win some games. Thats just my opinion, I will say up front that i am no sports expert (obviously).
The last thing i want to say is that the type of recuits we seem to obtain for our RRCC sports teams (this is my opinion from my personal experience at RRCC) whether black or white seem to lack character and overall manners. I cannot tell you how many times i have been in the RRCC weight room doing my own thing and have been continually harrassed and bothered, even after I made it clear I was not interested. After a while I didn't even feel comfortable going in there alone, I almost felt threatened in a way, Which is weird because I am not a pushover or shy. I am fairly confident in doing my own thing, and yet i still felt uneasy, no young girl should have to feel threatened in her own college weight room. This was the case in many other sitations as well. I also have to say that this is not just the feeling of me individually, i know many other female students who feel the same way. I dont want this to become a race issue, because it is not, its a recruitment issue. Every college wants to have quality students that work to their full potential, and if you ask me RRCC has not done a very good job in persuing that.
I love RRCC, i have made the best memories of my young life there, as well as meeting some of the coolest people that i still keep in touch with today. Friends that I would never have met had it not been for the PSEO program. They helped me broaden my horizens both intellectually and socially.
Im not exactly sure what Hibbing did with their current football team, if anyone knows please post.
Hibbing's college got rid of...
Back to page topHibbing's college got rid of the football team because of their poor academic standing. Simply put, they couldn't keep their grades up, so the sport was suspended. I believe it is tremendously important for Rainy River's coach to focus on academics. Even though it is a small junior college and it's difficult to recruit and it's easy to slide by, grades are important.
Thanks Shannon for the heads...
Back to page topThanks Shannon for the heads up on Hibbings program, I almost feel the same should happen for our program at RRCC. If decent players cannot be found locally or out of state it is not worth it to the community, or the college. IF the college cant stand on its own feet without the football team, there really has to be other means with which to help RRCC survive, because in all reality the cons outweigh the pros if things continue to stay at status quo.
Its almost a sad thing because so many people go off to college and end up changing their major or coming back to town, either because they dont like living away from home or because of financial reasons. I think Rainy River could really build upon the fact that students can save thousands and thousands of dollars by attending a Jr. College for the first two years in attaining their generals.
I for one am very interested to know how the professors themselves feel about the football team. I would hazard a guess that it would be truly difficult to hear how they truly feel, especially with the political correctness thats expected within academia.
As a sports fan, I love...
Back to page topAs a sports fan, I love college football. I know the value of what a community college football team can mean to a place, but when the student-athletes are not fulfilling both halves of student and athlete and there is overwhelming proof of this, then tough decisions must be made. As of now, the decision has been made to keep the Voyageur football program going, at least, for another year. Will we see in one year remarkable growth in GPA's on the football team? It is unlikely, but up here we love to give people another chance. So, okay, let's bring up the grades, assemble a better team, and interact with the community to bring out the fans to support and keep the program afloat. But as we saw in Hibbing, a grade point average of 1.81 isn't going to cut it. Football players going to school and needing remedial classes won't either. College is for people who are college ready, not just football ready. Hopefully, RRCC can recruit athletes who take their studies seriously and maybe our future Saturdays in the fall will be ones with Voyageur victories with a team we can love and respect.
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I feel the same way as you,...
Back to page topI feel the same way as you, raniergurl, I think that Rainy River should start promoting itself as an inexpensive way for students to still afford living costs (living in a dorm at a bigger school costs soooo much money and I. Falls has other housing opportunities for students coming in from out of town) than promoting its athletics.
I agree that the teachers...
Back to page topI agree that the teachers (possibly anonymously) could give us some insight about the team and why (or whether) they want it here for another season. I also believe that the players or coach could give us some insight.
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Low grades NO football....
Back to page topLow grades NO football. It's simple if the grades are that low what is the reason to keep the sport. The money used to recuit and keep the players here could be used for scholarships. I also don't believe many of the young men have stayed here or support the children that they have fathered. Sad but true.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE NO BENEFIT...
Back to page topTO MY KNOWLEDGE NO BENEFIT HAS EVER BEEN REALIZED BY HAVING A FOOTBALL PROGRAM AT RRSJC. EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE EVER READ ABOUT RRSJC HAS BEEN NEGATIVE AND FILLED WITH CONTROVERSY... I SAY BUNCH THE PROGRAM AND THE SOONER THE BETTER!!
REB... I agree 100% with...
Back to page topREB... I agree 100% with GOPHER60 ! In fact, I go even further and say, "bunch all the sports programs at RRCC" as far as making them a "major" item!!! It is way tooo much of an expense and a bigger problem than any benefits for the area! Some simply get obsessed with the games....
So many young girls from the...
Back to page topSo many young girls from the falls have been impregnated by african americans that I believe many people are wondering what the football team is doing for the town. Besides that, of course. I am not supporting segregation or anything, but parents please educate your daughters about sex and the telltale wiles of experienced unfamiliar men. Unless you wish them a similar fate, of course.
I mean, I like little brown...
Back to page topI mean, I like little brown babies as much as the next person, but this is getting a bit ridiculous.
Well i am glad to hear all...
Back to page topWell i am glad to hear all of these responses it was brought to my attention today that there was actually a town meeting on this same subject, and i was also not so suprised to hear that most who spoke at the meeting made no bad points against the program as if they were scared to be viewed as racist, The fact is that race has nothing to do with this matter, If i would have known about this meeting before it happend i know i would have been there and i would have had a few things to say that were not so positive i think then that would have broke the ice so to speak and maybe a few others would have voiced their honest opinion. Why hold back on our thoughts about this after all last time i checked this is our town isn't it?
P.S. It would be asinine for someone to accuse anyone of racism over this, they would have to be clueless as to what has sparked this topic.
Our city is trying to...
Back to page topOur city is trying to embrace diversity, but it is a fact of life at the present time that we are slow to accept diversity, which is odd considering we are a border city. Our city was built by every kind of person there is. It made us strong. We cannot let a few bad apples take us off the path of growth. Perhaps RRCC football is doomed. Perhaps we will continue to live the 1950's. I feel terrible that people have been hurt, physically, financially and emotionally, but we are a football/hockey town. Let us keep the football program and recruit kids who want to study and play here, and let us get rid of those who give us a black eye. (no pun intended).
Slow to accept diversity? I...
Back to page topSlow to accept diversity? I think not, people are only slow to accept diversity when it appears to impede on their religious beliefs and values, no matter what religion a person has, lazyiness, disrespect, and poor work ethic is never an easily accepted part of diversity.
Some people have tried to give way more credit and leeway to the players of the football team than they deserve....you said a "few bad apples"? I dont know if you have attended RRCC in the last 4 or 5 years but i can tell you from personal experience its far more than jsut a "few bad apples", its a much larger problem and i am telling you now that there needs to be an end to this program. I didnt enjoy it when i was there and people who go there now do not enjoy it.
By "it" i mean the football...
Back to page topBy "it" i mean the football program, not rrcc itself
It seems to me that it's not...
Back to page topIt seems to me that it's not football that is the problem, but the people that are playing it. Drugs and alcohol are a huge part of it. I know that the police are busier when football season is here. Rules should not only be made but followed. There has to be consequences to doing wrong. Right and wrong are becoming very blurry to too many people.
Oh, and the comment on...
Back to page topOh, and the comment on "little brown babies"? I took offence to that. That was not called for. Is it more wrong for a colored dad to leave his baby? Seems to me I see unwed mothers everywhere I go.
Response to Buddy. No one...
Back to page topResponse to Buddy. No one said that football was the problem it is the the players. If there is anyone who wants to keep this football program going i would suggest some big changes starting at the core of the problem the players! The recruiters are the ones that are responsible for this so who does the recruiting? Is there a way to get their attention on this matter? they have let this continue too long but i suppose they should get a chance to change this, since the program is on for next year the best thing we can do now is change recruiting.
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Okay "buddy" we all know...
Back to page topOkay "buddy" we all know that its not a good thing for anyone to leave a girl and the kid he fathered. I think what you failed to understand correct me if im wrong but the point of that was that we have people coming from the other end of the country and get certain people pregnant then go home to have no responsibility. But i do give these girls so much credit to get stuck with this and not take the so called easy way out.
I do understand. I just...
Back to page topI do understand. I just didn't like the "little brown babies" comment. Yes, the whole football program needs revamping. Now, someone just needs to do it.
After reading this...
Back to page topAfter reading this outpouring of opinions on RRCC football, I feel that perhaps someone should try and hold another community meeting. I too am RRCC alum; I was there when the football program started back in 2000 -2001. I have been to football games and it is often times painful to watch pour college pour money into a losing effort. If this was a pro team they would have moved by now. I think the college needs to move on find a new way to attract students. As for the hockey team being lost due to poor attendance, it seems to me that RRCC won the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP in 1998-1999 and then was axed at the end of the 1999-2000 season; it had nothing to do with attendance. The largest crowd ever at Bronco Arena with over 3,500 people in attendance was RRCC playing for the Championship, plus the school got over 20,000 dollars just for hosting the tourney, where did the money go? They used it bring in a football team and ax the team that gave them the money.. The program was dropped to make room for football and I for one feel that was a bad trade.
If there is this much support for not having a football team, then perhaps there should be a petition or another meeting to express the cons of the football team. I am on the fence on this one, I just feel that some facts need to be looked at #1 Game attendance, #2 team GPA, and #3 most importantly retention, how many football players finish the semester and come back for the spring and the next year.
Wake up IFalls residents. I...
Back to page topWake up IFalls residents. I graduated @ 35 years ago from Falls High, joined the Navy and ended up living in the southern part of the U.S. Before I joined the Navy I had never talked to a black person, so the only image I had of Blacks was what I saw on TV. But now that I have lived in the South for over 30 years, I see what the majority of the Blacks are all about. Sure there are quite a few exceptions, but for the most part many of them are quite happy to live off of the system, which is why RRCC has ended up with them. I have witnessed what they have done to the schools here in S.C,, causing us to be ranked 47th out of 50 nationwide in education. As you have witnessed in the Falls/RRCC, they just want to "attempt" to play football, have sex with as many "trophy" Falls white girls, live off your welfare state, and then go on to the next welfare opportunity. I don't get back to the Falls that often, but I was in town at the begining of last football season, and I watched the football team work out, and I could tell the black players just didn't give a flip. I actually felt sorry for the coach, because I could tell he really wanted to get the team in gear. I also went by the players dorm and it looked like a "ghetto". And then I went with my wife into Hardee's and got to watch the black players in action. I recommend that you get RRCC back to being a school where people can go for a "safe" education, and say "to hell" with the sports teams. Those of you who think it is so cute, having this "diversity" in the Falls, need to wake up and see what it is doing to your town. I really miss the "old Falls".
Dear God help your poor soul...
Back to page topDear God help your poor soul if that's all you can say about living in the south for 30 years. You sound like a disgusting bigot. Everything you've written should be discredited. This isn't a race issue. The school should be dealing with the problem. It's not BLACKS inpregnanting FALLS GIRLS. I'm a falls girl. I know most of them are a bunch of ****s. Yes, I said it. If their parents had some control over them and if they had the sense to keep their pants up like honorable women, then we wouldn't have this problem. Don't blame races. It's just people making bad choices.
The school should be enforcing a conduct code to the players. Something needs to be done about the program and making sure the people who are recruited are serious about education as well as sports. If that doesn't solve the problem, then axe the program.
The Falls is full of single mothers. When I was in highschool our county had one of the highest teen pregnancy ratings in the state. Don't start pointing fingers at people from outside the town. It takes two.
I say get rid of it....
Back to page topI say get rid of it.
BRAVO,BRAVO,BRAVO!!!!!roj2000...
Back to page topBRAVO,BRAVO,BRAVO!!!!!roj2000
TELL IT LIKE IT IS MY NEW FRIEND.
Thanks Gopher60!!!! What has...
Back to page topThanks Gopher60!!!!
What has happened to the parents in the Falls?? In the 1960's if a girl was knocked up, she was looked down upon. But now it appears to be acceptable to get pregnant at 16 yrs/old, (with a 1/2 black baby), and then live on Minnesota welfare. I would like to correct my previous comments, regarding the sports programs at RRCC. I do think they should scrap the football, and get the hockey back. I used to visit from South Carolina, just to watch the Bronco's and RRCC play some hockey. And don't the city leaders get the big picture, and I mean the city council, police, etc .... Let's get the Falls back to being a nice tourist town, and forget about the politically correct, BS!! I wanted to retire in a few years and spend part of the year in the Falls (God's Country), but not now, with all of the P.C. BS ruining the city. I think the Resident's need to get together and organize a meeting, and make the City Leaders, knock off the B.S.!! Stop ruining this great city!!
Racism very quickly gets...
Back to page topRacism very quickly gets down to ugly stereotypes, doesn't it. Did anybody else find it ironic that this ultimately racist discussion boiled over on the same weekend that Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith, both Christians and great black coaches, faced each other in the Super Bowl?